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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by Frederik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s possible to get to the same result without backports. However, there are some improvements with backports: 

	- Backports contains a newer version of QtCurve
	- The kde4-style-qtcurve package backports package contains the necessary RPM &quot;Suggests&quot; so that all things you need are installed automaticlly without having to find all necessary packages by hand
	- With the backports package it&#039;s possible to install systemsettings-qt-gtk without installing the buggy and unsupported gtk-qt engine.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s possible to get to the same result without backports. However, there are some improvements with backports: </p>
<p>	- Backports contains a newer version of QtCurve<br />
	- The kde4-style-qtcurve package backports package contains the necessary RPM &#8220;Suggests&#8221; so that all things you need are installed automaticlly without having to find all necessary packages by hand<br />
	- With the backports package it&#8217;s possible to install systemsettings-qt-gtk without installing the buggy and unsupported gtk-qt engine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by Noone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Backports needed ???
Just search for &quot;gtk-qt&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Backports needed ???<br />
Just search for &#8220;gtk-qt&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by littlenoodles</title>
		<link>http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/uncategorized/making-your-mixed-kde-and-gnome-desktop-look-cool.html/comment-page-1#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>littlenoodles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, you got me.  Of course, you could&#039;ve included the quote the *first* time you snarked out at me.  But thanks anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, you got me.  Of course, you could&#8217;ve included the quote the *first* time you snarked out at me.  But thanks anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by Frederik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the second time, please read the article.

Quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In Mandriva you install the kde4-style-qtcurve package. If you have urpmi’s “suggests” support enabled (it is by default), then this will automatically pull in both the KDE 4 and the GTK+ theme, and also systemsettings-qt-gtk, a tool which lets you choose the GTK+ theme to use in KDE.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the second time, please read the article.</p>
<p>Quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>In Mandriva you install the kde4-style-qtcurve package. If you have urpmi’s “suggests” support enabled (it is by default), then this will automatically pull in both the KDE 4 and the GTK+ theme, and also systemsettings-qt-gtk, a tool which lets you choose the GTK+ theme to use in KDE.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by littlenoodles</title>
		<link>http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/uncategorized/making-your-mixed-kde-and-gnome-desktop-look-cool.html/comment-page-1#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>littlenoodles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm.  I&#039;m running Mandriva 2010, and I don&#039;t think my KDE System Settings has a &#039;GTK+ Styles and Fonts&#039; option.

I noticed that OpenSuse11.2 had this, but Mandriva didn&#039;t (unless they just added it - I&#039;ve been doing running updates since the beta and never installed the final release).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm.  I&#8217;m running Mandriva 2010, and I don&#8217;t think my KDE System Settings has a &#8216;GTK+ Styles and Fonts&#8217; option.</p>
<p>I noticed that OpenSuse11.2 had this, but Mandriva didn&#8217;t (unless they just added it &#8211; I&#8217;ve been doing running updates since the beta and never installed the final release).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only Mozilla could release a Qt version of Firefox...we could get rid of GTK+.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Mozilla could release a Qt version of Firefox&#8230;we could get rid of GTK+.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by Frederik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to that question is exactly what is explained in the article...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to that question is exactly what is explained in the article&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making your mixed KDE and GNOME desktop look cool by littlenoodles</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlenoodles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;,,,while in GTK+ Styles and Fonts, you select the theme used by GTK+ applications

Maybe this is a silly question, but my Mandriva system is KDE-only (which is what you get when you install from the live CD).  I&#039;m sure GTK+ is there, but how do I get to this &#039;GTK+Styles and Fonts&#039; thing without installing the whole GNOME desktop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;,,,while in GTK+ Styles and Fonts, you select the theme used by GTK+ applications</p>
<p>Maybe this is a silly question, but my Mandriva system is KDE-only (which is what you get when you install from the live CD).  I&#8217;m sure GTK+ is there, but how do I get to this &#8216;GTK+Styles and Fonts&#8217; thing without installing the whole GNOME desktop?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NetworkManager in Mandriva by Frederik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite the opposite here:

&lt;code&gt;$ ps aux &#124; grep -i -E &quot;net_applet&#124;networkmanager&#124;nm-applet&quot;
frederik  3942  0.0  0.3 220592 15496 ?        S    Nov15   0:14 nm-applet --sm-disable
root     12468  0.0  0.1  83352  4616 ?        Ssl  Nov16   0:03 NetworkManager --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid
frederik 15869  1.1  1.0 240152 43520 pts/8    S+   22:47   0:03 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/net_applet --force&lt;/code&gt;


Here net_applet uses 1% of my memory (43M RSS), while NetworkManager uses 0.1% of memory (4.6 MB RSS) and nm-applet uses 0.3% (15.5 MB RSS): NetworkManager uses only half the memory that Mandriva&#039;s net_applet needs! This is not very surprising if you know that NetworkManager and nm-applet are written in C, while net_applet is written in Perl.

(I think I would even need to add the memory uses of the mandi daemon to net_applet&#039;s calculation to be completely correct, because mandi is required by net_applet if I&#039;m not mistaken.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite the opposite here:</p>
<p><code>$ ps aux | grep -i -E "net_applet|networkmanager|nm-applet"<br />
frederik  3942  0.0  0.3 220592 15496 ?        S    Nov15   0:14 nm-applet --sm-disable<br />
root     12468  0.0  0.1  83352  4616 ?        Ssl  Nov16   0:03 NetworkManager --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid<br />
frederik 15869  1.1  1.0 240152 43520 pts/8    S+   22:47   0:03 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/net_applet --force</code></p>
<p>Here net_applet uses 1% of my memory (43M RSS), while NetworkManager uses 0.1% of memory (4.6 MB RSS) and nm-applet uses 0.3% (15.5 MB RSS): NetworkManager uses only half the memory that Mandriva&#8217;s net_applet needs! This is not very surprising if you know that NetworkManager and nm-applet are written in C, while net_applet is written in Perl.</p>
<p>(I think I would even need to add the memory uses of the mandi daemon to net_applet&#8217;s calculation to be completely correct, because mandi is required by net_applet if I&#8217;m not mistaken.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on NetworkManager in Mandriva by n0n</title>
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		<dc:creator>n0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NetworkManager consum a lot of RAM and recurses. 
I am very happy with wifi Mandriva tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NetworkManager consum a lot of RAM and recurses.<br />
I am very happy with wifi Mandriva tools.</p>
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